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		<title>By: Justin</title>
		<link>http://www.justinkownacki.com/2010/01/12/this-just-in-old-media-still-doesnt-get-new-media/comment-page-1/#comment-1739</link>
		<dc:creator>Justin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Jan 2010 16:53:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I watch the Sunday shows to see *actual* &quot;experts&quot; being grilled about policy issues. I gain nothing my having my attention subdivided by a slow crawl informing me of what Joe in Idaho thinks about someone&#039;s answer from 3 questions ago.

If you want public commentary running during TV shows, you also need to have TV shows playing in-browser while you&#039;re reading blogs and using Twitter. If there&#039;s no place for salient discourse, there should be no place for uninterrupted opinion either. Fair is fair.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I watch the Sunday shows to see *actual* &#8220;experts&#8221; being grilled about policy issues. I gain nothing my having my attention subdivided by a slow crawl informing me of what Joe in Idaho thinks about someone&#8217;s answer from 3 questions ago.</p>
<p>If you want public commentary running during TV shows, you also need to have TV shows playing in-browser while you&#8217;re reading blogs and using Twitter. If there&#8217;s no place for salient discourse, there should be no place for uninterrupted opinion either. Fair is fair.</p>
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		<title>By: SexCpotatoes</title>
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		<dc:creator>SexCpotatoes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jan 2010 17:55:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ah, I didn&#039;t explain it properly, Justin.  The twitter-feed would not be uncensored, nor would it be on all the time.  Question and comment sessions, serious/funny tweets approved by a team of helpers that make sure there isn&#039;t too much profanity and that the comments apply to the discussion at hand.

This would be brilliant, I think.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah, I didn&#8217;t explain it properly, Justin.  The twitter-feed would not be uncensored, nor would it be on all the time.  Question and comment sessions, serious/funny tweets approved by a team of helpers that make sure there isn&#8217;t too much profanity and that the comments apply to the discussion at hand.</p>
<p>This would be brilliant, I think.</p>
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		<title>By: My Google Reader Shares &#8211; January 14, 2010 &#124; OBannons Leap</title>
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		<dc:creator>My Google Reader Shares &#8211; January 14, 2010 &#124; OBannons Leap</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jan 2010 11:41:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Justin</title>
		<link>http://www.justinkownacki.com/2010/01/12/this-just-in-old-media-still-doesnt-get-new-media/comment-page-1/#comment-1703</link>
		<dc:creator>Justin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jan 2010 20:13:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brian:  If these shows *aren&#039;t* around when I&#039;m 50, that means the public will have even LESS of an opportunity to see and hear what their elected officials are really up to.  What&#039;s frustrating is that even though our need to understand our political system is becoming more important, our means of doing so are becoming less relevant.

SexC: I have to admit, I don&#039;t personally see the value in adding Twitter streams to TV shows. I didn&#039;t appreciate having MTV videos overriden with viewer-generated commentary in the &#039;90s, and I don&#039;t think a steady stream of &quot;OMG Dona Brazil is do DUMBBB!!!&quot; tweets would improve my Sunday morning experience.

But asking tough questions in the interest of providing Americans with the information they need to vote accurately?  Yes, that should be a cornerstone of the media&#039;s job.  And unless we hold them accountable for squandering their access, we&#039;re allowing them to get away with it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brian:  If these shows *aren&#8217;t* around when I&#8217;m 50, that means the public will have even LESS of an opportunity to see and hear what their elected officials are really up to.  What&#8217;s frustrating is that even though our need to understand our political system is becoming more important, our means of doing so are becoming less relevant.</p>
<p>SexC: I have to admit, I don&#8217;t personally see the value in adding Twitter streams to TV shows. I didn&#8217;t appreciate having MTV videos overriden with viewer-generated commentary in the &#8217;90s, and I don&#8217;t think a steady stream of &#8220;OMG Dona Brazil is do DUMBBB!!!&#8221; tweets would improve my Sunday morning experience.</p>
<p>But asking tough questions in the interest of providing Americans with the information they need to vote accurately?  Yes, that should be a cornerstone of the media&#8217;s job.  And unless we hold them accountable for squandering their access, we&#8217;re allowing them to get away with it.</p>
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		<title>By: Jackson Wightman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jackson Wightman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jan 2010 19:55:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All very valid points. 

Thompson&#039;s argument is replete with logical flaws as you say. I actually watched Sunday political shows (Cdn and US) before I was 20 (in the early 1990&#039;s before there was Twitter) and still do sometimes now.

I think the shows are failing for a number of content related reasons. As you point out, the inaccuracy of facts cited is off the charts - pundits from all sides go on these things and say anything. 

The other problem is that the shows are so totally replete with over the top spin that people seem less willing to tolerate (I believe that increasing apathy re politics is a very real manifestation of this). Typically on a Sunday talk show &quot;balance&quot; is achieved by pairing a liberal with a conservative. However this format has not brought more balance only more bullshit, as over the last 15-20 yrs spin has gotten more outrageous in its claims and overall tone. This is real problem for networks with outdated business models because it adds a whole different dimension to the problem - one they are less able to control in some respects.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All very valid points. </p>
<p>Thompson&#8217;s argument is replete with logical flaws as you say. I actually watched Sunday political shows (Cdn and US) before I was 20 (in the early 1990&#8242;s before there was Twitter) and still do sometimes now.</p>
<p>I think the shows are failing for a number of content related reasons. As you point out, the inaccuracy of facts cited is off the charts &#8211; pundits from all sides go on these things and say anything. </p>
<p>The other problem is that the shows are so totally replete with over the top spin that people seem less willing to tolerate (I believe that increasing apathy re politics is a very real manifestation of this). Typically on a Sunday talk show &#8220;balance&#8221; is achieved by pairing a liberal with a conservative. However this format has not brought more balance only more bullshit, as over the last 15-20 yrs spin has gotten more outrageous in its claims and overall tone. This is real problem for networks with outdated business models because it adds a whole different dimension to the problem &#8211; one they are less able to control in some respects.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jan 2010 15:40:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very interesting thought. Do you honestly think the old-media will be around when you are 50?

They don&#039;t ask tough questions, are clearly partisan in their leaning and do not work to inform the citizenry of the truth. Then they wonder why they are not relevant?

Go figure.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very interesting thought. Do you honestly think the old-media will be around when you are 50?</p>
<p>They don&#8217;t ask tough questions, are clearly partisan in their leaning and do not work to inform the citizenry of the truth. Then they wonder why they are not relevant?</p>
<p>Go figure.</p>
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		<dc:creator>uberVU - social comments</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jan 2010 15:25:22 +0000</pubDate>
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This post was mentioned on Twitter by JustinKownacki: This Just In: Old Media Still Doesn&#039;t &quot;Get&quot; New Media: http://bit.ly/8I4QMs...</description>
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		<title>By: Ken Mueller</title>
		<link>http://www.justinkownacki.com/2010/01/12/this-just-in-old-media-still-doesnt-get-new-media/comment-page-1/#comment-1699</link>
		<dc:creator>Ken Mueller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jan 2010 15:16:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not to mention the fact that he is bissfully ignorant of Twitter&#039;s demographics. Last time I checked, Twitter wasn&#039;t populated by 20 year olds. I&#039;m 47 and it seems that the large majority of those of us on Twitter are IN their demographic. 

So let&#039;s see, it&#039;s silly for us to use &quot;new media&quot; to talk about &quot;old media&quot;...but perfectly OK for them to use their &quot;old media&quot; platform to talk about &quot;new media&quot;??</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not to mention the fact that he is bissfully ignorant of Twitter&#8217;s demographics. Last time I checked, Twitter wasn&#8217;t populated by 20 year olds. I&#8217;m 47 and it seems that the large majority of those of us on Twitter are IN their demographic. </p>
<p>So let&#8217;s see, it&#8217;s silly for us to use &#8220;new media&#8221; to talk about &#8220;old media&#8221;&#8230;but perfectly OK for them to use their &#8220;old media&#8221; platform to talk about &#8220;new media&#8221;??</p>
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		<title>By: SexCpotatoes</title>
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		<dc:creator>SexCpotatoes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jan 2010 14:39:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, and the &#039;balls to ask the hard questions, and clout to force the guests to answer honestly and on the record&#039; is assumed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, and the &#8216;balls to ask the hard questions, and clout to force the guests to answer honestly and on the record&#8217; is assumed.</p>
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		<title>By: SexCpotatoes</title>
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		<dc:creator>SexCpotatoes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jan 2010 14:33:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We need a new show.  I don&#039;t care which network (any except FAUXnews) that takes twitter questions and comments.  Have live scrolling commentary a la one of those shows that was on MTV back in the day (screened for appropriateness of course). 

We could use a NEW honest and trustworthy host (or the likes of Jon Stewart/Stephen Colbert playing it mostly straight).  Then we need quality guests.  Any politician should be committing political suicide to deny an invite to this &#039;new&#039; show. 

That&#039;s what I want to see this year.  You would NUKE the competition in the ratings, advertising revenue, and win 10 billion karma points for raising the level of discourse in this country.

Will it ever happen? Hell fucking no, sadly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We need a new show.  I don&#8217;t care which network (any except FAUXnews) that takes twitter questions and comments.  Have live scrolling commentary a la one of those shows that was on MTV back in the day (screened for appropriateness of course). </p>
<p>We could use a NEW honest and trustworthy host (or the likes of Jon Stewart/Stephen Colbert playing it mostly straight).  Then we need quality guests.  Any politician should be committing political suicide to deny an invite to this &#8216;new&#8217; show. </p>
<p>That&#8217;s what I want to see this year.  You would NUKE the competition in the ratings, advertising revenue, and win 10 billion karma points for raising the level of discourse in this country.</p>
<p>Will it ever happen? Hell fucking no, sadly.</p>
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